Kyle Lowry Allegedly Threw A Basketball At A Female Referee In Vegas
by Tom Martin on Jan 5, 2012 9:13 PM CST
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PrintRockets guard Kyle Lowry has been charged with one count of misdemeanor battery for actions that took place during the NBA lockout. Here's a snippet from FOX Houston's Mark Berman:
According to the charges, the allegations stem from a basketball game Lowry was playing in between NBA players on Sept. 22, 2011 in Las Vegas. The female victim, Infini Robinson, was one of the referees in the game.
The declaration of warrant/summons said, "At the end of the game, Lowry approached the victim and threw a basketball at her striking her in her torso. The victim picked up the basketball and tossed it back at Lowry. Lowry became upset and stated, 'B****, meet me outside. I will kick you're a**'."
The warrant goes on to allege that after Lowry walked away, Robinson went to the designated area for officials to change shoes and clothing, and she was hit with a basketball at a high rate of speed.
I know what you're thinking. Somehow, Charlotte Bobcats forward Corey Maggette has got to be involved.
Also according to the warrant, Charlotte Bobcats forward Corey Maggette apologized to Robinson on behalf of Lowry and that Lowry also approached Robinson and said, "I'm sorry. I truly apologize for what I did. I let my emotions get the best of me."
Lowry won't appear before a court until February 2nd. If Lowry is convicted of the charges, he faces up to six months in the Clark County detention center.
I'm no legal expert, so I won't dive into those details. But from a fan's perspective, I think we've all come to expect nothing but professionalism from Lowry, which makes this all the more surprising. At the same time, we all want Lowry on the court and out of jail, so to play to that notion, I'll say this: If Donte Stallworth can kill someone with a car and end up playing football the next year, you'd have to think Lowry will be able to escape jail time for a misdemeanor battery charge. Take my uninformed opinion for what it is, a guess.
We'll have more as it unfolds.
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I don't want to take away from the seriousness of Lowry hitting someone
(even if it was just with a basketball) and then threatening her….
…but the choice of picture with Kyle laughing his ass off while wearing an “IMPACT BASKETBALL” tee is subliminally brilliant.
by Only_A_Lad on Jan 5, 2012 9:17 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
With his hands up
Like “I didn’t do shit!”
But for real… this is weird.
Rectum!? Damn near killed 'em!!!
by theSpaceCityKid on Jan 5, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
why wait so long for him to be charged? or did he get charged a while back?
and theres gotta be video of this right?
It takes a while for Perpetually Confused Lawyer to sort out who is Rafer Alston and who is not Rafer Alston. In the future, as a courtesy to Perpetually Confused Lawyer, look for the person cutting other peoples throats. That is Alston, and that is also probably the person who did whatever you are accusing Lowry of.
by seanbergmanrules on Jan 5, 2012 10:33 PM CST up reply actions
he did it for basketball reasons
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Unrelated
but Game 6 of the ’94 Finals is on NBATV right now.
If you want some tangential connection to this (via crime in general, I suppose), the ‘94 Finals were my first memory of the Rockets. I watched them with my cousin, and I distinctly remember the OJ case. There’s your connection.
Give her a couple hundred thousand and she'll shut up.
Seriously though, this sucks. Always seemed like such a nice guy, I can’t imagine him doing what was alleged of him.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
Some of the comments about this on ClutchFans are interesting.
A few guys are saying that this doesn’t sound like something Lowry would do, but I totally disagree. Lowry’s hyper-competitive. I don’t find it unbelievable at all that he’d get this pissed off. I’m not even surprised that it happened in a “meaningless” summer game. Somehow that makes it more likely in my mind (if you throw the ball at an NBA ref, you’ll get a huge fine, not a misdemeanor charge, as weird and perverse as that may seem).
He was doing it to intentionally hurt her it seems.
He even threatened to fight her. I can imagine him pulling a Brooks and throwing it out of frustration, but not in the intention to hurt and then threaten to beat her up.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
Well
what does “intentionally hurt her” mean, anyways? You throw a ball hard, I guess you’re trying to hurt the person at whom you’re throwing the ball. As far as the threat goes, that seems a lot more serious, but it also seems pretty spur-of-the-moment.
Like I said, it’s serious and needs to be treated as such, but at the same time it’s not so serious that I’m really shocked.
Hopefully there's more to this story we're not hearing.
It’s not going to label Lowry a misogynist just yet, but throwing a basketball at a woman and threatening to kick her ass is pretty immature.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 5, 2012 9:49 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Also, Mark Berman needs a proofreader.
“B***, I will kick you’re a**”? You’re?
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 5, 2012 10:08 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Didn't realize it was quoted straight off of the summons.
That makes it worse.
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 5, 2012 10:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Lowry became upset and stated, ‘B****, meet me outside. I will kick you’re a**’."
That’s fu**ing gold.
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.
Unacceptable
Unless of course the “you’re” is just a hilarious translation error and Kyle actually said " Bitch, meet me outside. I will kick YOUR ass,"
by seanbergmanrules on Jan 5, 2012 10:39 PM CST up reply actions
That's why
I wanna hear what his excuse is for this. You don’t live down challenging a woman to a fight.
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.
by taylorrohrman on Jan 5, 2012 11:08 PM CST up reply actions
I swear
Had this been Thabeet, Williams, or Martin guys would be pissing and shitting all over them. I like Lowry but you guys know you would bash the hell out of anyone else, except maybe Scola.
I hate david stern!
I really don't think that's the case.
The specifics of this case seem alternately non-serious (throwing a basketball at her) and much more serious (threatening her). If Martin, Thabeet, Scola, etc. did this I would be really surprised (not so much for Williams, really), but I wouldn’t be “shitting all over them.” We don’t have the facts out.
i'm kinda hoping that this is not true, somehow
because it’s really dumb shit to try and hurt and challenge to a fight a woman
This is all surprising
but rather small really. The way he’s been playing for the past year, he can do anything that doesn’t merit jail time.
by twinkilling0303 on Jan 5, 2012 10:43 PM CST reply actions
Wow...just wow...
Once again the Refs screw Lowry…why do I smell Stern behind this? If it isn’t a conspiracy, why is he being charged now for something done in the summer? His Lawyer should use the delay to his advantage and point out other misdemeanors…women want to be equal in all ways? I’m all for it and as a result I don’t think that just because he threatened a woman he should be treated any differently than a guy who threatened another guy…something just isn’t right about this…
ROCKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!
1) I seriously doubt the refs used in the summer games were NBA-affiliated refs.
2) Let’s not drag weird conspiracy and misogyny stuff into this, please.
see above...RANT haha...
and don’t worry…I don’t believe in conspiracy theories I hatch…just a rant nothing else…I even tried to exaggerate to hint at sarcasm
ROCKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!
realized I forgot to develop my Stern point...
Stern doesn’t like that Lowry is getting so much All-Star attention on tv. Therefore he hatches this ploy to defile Lowry and thus secure his darling Paul from competition as to protect his manipulative power over the NBA…WARNING: STERN IS EXPANDING BEYOND THE NBA…is there any way to launch a fan uprising against stern? because I know a few million people aren’t very happy with him…END RANT.
ROCKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any lawyers on the board want to pop this guy's misdemeanor charge cherry?
He threw a ball at me once! I swear!
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
That is the reason I don't go to Battle Red Blog. I would be too rational and guys would flag my posts as spam.-batman713
My friend took me to play ball in West Philly. I feel like 6 outta the 20ish people we played with should have long jail time if throwing a ball at someone is an offense.
by VBG on Jan 6, 2012 8:09 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
I meant to rec but accidentally hit flag.
I laughed at this.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
Remember when Danny Ainge did this to Mario Elie???
Playoffs, Rockets vs Suns, and Mario Elie just hit a 3 to ice the game (maybe the series). As the Rockets were celebrating, Danny Ainge took the ball behind the baseline, and acting like he was inbounding the ball, loaded up with a baseball pass and drilled Elie right in the face.
by Moochie's Fro on Jan 6, 2012 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
disturbing
But alot of things seem somewhat strange about this. I guess we’ll see where this all goes. Vegas always out how to screw houston sports, just never thought theyd b this overt (joke)
On a more serious note, given the officiating in the last few games, i wonder why those refs remained unmolested and were spared lowry’s wrath
"Never underestimate the heart of a champion"- Rudy T, all up in that azz
by ShookednShanghaied11 on Jan 5, 2012 11:42 PM CST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
I laughed.
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.
by taylorrohrman on Jan 6, 2012 12:40 AM CST up reply actions
not worried
He didnt hit her, he threw a basketball at her and said something to her. Regular people do this crap everyday and arent sent to jail. Heck, Ive done worse and didnt have to do time. He’ll get his “NBA player” ruling and have to open his checkbook. I dont see this as a big deal, it just seems worse because it involed a woman. Do any of us really think Kyle would’ve fought this lady had she stepped outside?
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by fanoflosingteams on Jan 6, 2012 12:12 AM CST reply actions
Blazers totally outplaying the Lakers in every way. 4 vs. 14 turnover diff.
The Lakers bench is kind of amazingly bad.
Everyone thought Kobe was going to be okay after the Rockets game, but the countdown to the Mike Brown stabbing is still very much on.
I think the Portland TrailBlazers should be every Rockets fans 2nd favorite team. Or at least favorite Western Conference non-Rockets team.
Now they’re pushing the tempo they are so fun to watch
by VBG on Jan 6, 2012 8:08 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Always had a thing for the Blazers
Unless they’re playing the Rockets.
My thoughts are like Brian Cushing on the field: Everywhere.
Not at all
The way the lakers are playing is not because of Mike Brown, he is a good coach with a good system. It all falls onto David Stern. They’re bench is obviously going to be worse when you are forced into giving up the sixth man of the year for nothing, and the instability that fiasco created amongst the players will be hard to come back from.
stern and the owners are pigs, no question
But that’s not really why the Lakers are a mediocre team. They would have been a mediocre (possibly worse) team after the vetoed trade, anyways (down two all-stars for possibly the 2nd-best player in the game right now, but it was very questionable how he’d play with Kobe in that backcourt).. But Stern didn’t force them to trade Odom. Odom didn’t even really force them to trade him. He wanted a trade but they didn’t have to give him away for nothing. They did that (presumably, it’s the only thing that makes any sense) for cap and/or tax reasons.
The primary problem is the LA front office, which continually fails to put together a decent group of rotation players. Kupchak has done precisely three things right in his time in LA: capitalize on the Grizzlies being dumb as shit (netting Pau; people like to think the Grizzlies were really savvy because Marc Gasol turned out to be good, but they forget that (1) his transformation in Europe didn’t happen until after the trade and (2) there was zero reason to believe it was a good idea at the time), pick Bynum in the draft and be too stubborn (rightly) to trade him for Kidd (very rightly), and re-hire Phil Jackson. Those three things were home runs, and they made up for the LA front office’s numerous other failures. They have three players who are All-NBA, and before this year they had a coach whose system allowed them to hide certain deficiencies (namely a horrendous point guard situation).
But the Mike Brown hire made zero sense at the time. Mike Brown’s offensive system in Cleveland was horrific largely on an aesthetic level, but it was obvious to anyone what would happen if he didn’t have a playmaker of Lebron’s quality, and now he have a team that is merely average offensively after being an elite offensive team last year. Odom doesn’t account for all of that. Most of it is going from the Triangle to a conventional offense.
But that’s not even really my point, though. My point is that the team is mediocre, and by the time we reach the end of January, I think Kobe is going to be looking around for someone to blame. He has already sort of blamed Kupchak, but Brown is a nice, easy target. Doesn’t matter if he’s really the problem or not (but he is).
Re Odom
Buss didn’t want to re-sign Odom in the first place. Jackson had to do some hard talking to get Buss to cut the check. W/out Phil around…
I love when predictions come true. I live in LA and was telling several Laker fans I know that the Lakers were likely to try and trade Gasol. They all laughed,saying no way. To be honest,I was claiming the Lakers would trade Gasol for Love. Then,it turns out,the Lakers did call Minn offering Gasol for Love after the Paul deal was killed by Stern.
The problem w/the Lakers is they kept trading away draft picks and overall have done a bad job at identifying talent in the late First/early Second Rds. They kept trying to stock their bench w/vets who allegedly fit the Triangle instead of going for some young guys that would actually have to be coached.
I'm a household name... at my house.
Michael Vick is the best throwing running back of all time.
My put your name on it prediction for the Housotn Texans.
10-6, with a first round playoff upset over either the Ravens or Steelers.
I laughed.
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They remind me so much of the blazers of the early 2000s. No superstars but really deep.
by TheDream34 on Jan 6, 2012 12:52 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Wow I wasnt expecting this
So far we dont know exactly what happened since everything is alleged, so I will not judge until all the facts come out. Just watching Lowry over the years I can see him being competitive but it is hard for me to imagine he would throw a ball at a female ref, it could’ve be in the heat of the moment so I can accept that but it is really hard for me to imagine him threatening a woman to fight, because that is really low, and I dont see him saying that. I dont know him, but I would hope that this isnt something that is serious, I just wish Lowry wouldnt have been in a situation like that. Nobody’s perfect at the end of the day and in the bigger picture of things, even though I dont condone violence, throwing a basketball at someones torso, not their face, is not serious in my opinion. Again I hope Lowry didnt threaten the ref, but that is the story that I find the hardest to believe, and I hope I am right.
"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."
-Hakeem Olajuwon
"Stern Sucks"
-Me
Gonna play the gender card.
The only reason this complaint is even being taken in Las Vegas is because women carry a presumption of purity in every allegation they bring legally, which I think is crap. The information in the complaint is weak at best and I don’t think Kyle will face any actual trouble.
women carry a presumption of purity in every allegation they bring legally
I really don’t think that’s true.
But, yeah, this doesn’t seem like it’s going to be a major thing.
How so?
You’re entitled to your opinion, but how can such a statement ever be verified?
The bird is struggling out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born, must first destroy a world.
by Stupendous Man on Jan 6, 2012 10:43 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
I would suggest watching the youtube series from the user manwomanmyth.
Also, from my standpoint, we have gamed our social and legal system to assume women are helpless and therefore require the most trust when it comes to any of their complaints and legal actions. We may have moved “forward” in our social stigma attached to what is called sexism but we retain outdated presumptions based in chivalry that endures because of guilt, feminism, and some backwards sense of atonement.
We retain a lot of outdated presumptions, but I hardly think those presumptions favor women in the court or with police. From beliefs that rape victims probably deserved it to the presumption that women in abusive relationships should “just leave” (as if it were that easy), I think it’s pretty clear that the system is still stacked against women, even if it’s a lot better than it was fifty years ago. You don’t need to read feminist literature and throw around words like “patriarchy” to see that, I think.
I mean, shit, look at the response on the chronicle website or on CF. The dominant assumption seems to be that the accuser is a “bitch” or is out for money or something (which is an odd accusation to make, since this is a criminal charge).
I don’t know what happened that day, so I’ll refrain from judgment. My wild-ass-guess is that Kyle has a problem controlling his emotions, since that’s what we see on the court, and the story seems to indicate it was a spur-of-the-moment thing. But that doesn’t mean the accuser is wrong to tell the police or whatever. If Lowry did that, he probably broke the law, and if he did he should face punishment for it.
by Only_A_Lad on Jan 6, 2012 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So what were all those "Slut walk" protests about?
You have your points, BD—it becomes a bigger story because the ref was a woman—but the whole “presumption of purity or innocence” argument is pretty weak.
by Moochie's Fro on Jan 6, 2012 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
So if someone holds an event they're automatically right for doing so?
I guess the Westboro Baptist Church would love to have you running PR then. Look, I’m not saying there isn’t problems or discrimination but if you expect me to give credibility to issues where something is blown out of its intended scope you’re insane. The idea that a woman “deserved it” is a bastardization of the perception that in most date rape cases it’s more a case of “someone regrets their decision” rather than someone was taken advantage of.
“in most date rape cases it’s more a case of "someone regrets their decision" rather than someone was taken advantage of.”
Completely disagree with the above statement, which can’t even be proven, as far as I am aware.
To be fair to BD
he’s saying that’s the perception, rather than actuality.
I suggest we end this particular argument. It has very little to do with the Rockets or basketball. And as much as I’d like to talk about gender studies, I’m pretty sure this isn’t the ideal venue.
If you want to quote me, quote me in the entirety or don't bother.
Because by emitting one word you completely changed the whole context, I’m stopping this conversation right now, for basketball reasons.
Stallworth
Didn’t Donte Stallworth get suspended for an entire season after his issue?
Oh come on, you know what I meant.
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NO, SCREW THAT.
STALLWORTH PLAYED IN 2010. THE DUI WAS IN 2009. SCREW ALL OF YOU GUYS.
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Not going to comment on this too much
for all we know the woman ref is more of a man that Kyle is and for all we know none of this is actually true. Ok, I guess it is so Kyle needs some anger management.
If he’s suspended, Kevin McHale is sort of being bailed out here. Obviously I don’t like our chances against anyone without Lowry, so McHale won’t have to insert “operation tank” and play Scola against Howard and Bynum during important stretches of games. They will just be natural losses.
If you can feel them, they are real.
Wonder if the league will fine/suspend him any for this.
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
Stern does what he wants and when he wants.
kidding, but yah, if he’s proven guilty he will definitely get in some trouble with the league. More than likely he’ll serve time if needed during the offseason right?
Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!
It's still gotta go to trial and all that good jazz.
It honestly depends on witnesses/evidence and that sort of thing.
Only in Vegas
What Happens In Vegas Stays In Vegas
Apparently he threw a ball at the ref twice according to ESPN anyways
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7432477/houston-rockets-kyle-lowry-charged-battery-las-vegas
If thats true, thats pretty stupid.
"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."
-Hakeem Olajuwon
"Stern Sucks"
-Me
Classic Lowry
This sounds just like Lowry.
I saw him assault Luis Scola and Kevin Martin multiple times in the game just recently. He threw the ball directly at them with such force it made me cringe. They were lucky they managed to stop it with their hands.
One time I even saw him throw a ball at his own players head when he looked the other direction. Who does he think he is recklessly throwing balls at people.
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