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Rockets Fall to Thunder 98-95

So, ladies and gentlemen (Who am I kidding, gentlemen…) the good guys fall to 2-6 with a close loss to the Seattle Super… Oklahoma City Thunder tonight on the second night of a back-to-back. The game seemed lethargic throughout and picked up intermittently. Tonight we saw Kevin McHale get creative with the lineup, some impressive production from Chandler Parsons, and overall some very disappointing execution towards the end. I had fun watching this game after the first quarter and wound up hating myself by the end.

I’m going to use the three up and three down format along with a bit of caveat at the end, mostly because I’m ripping the format from other SBNation sites and some done right here. So buckle up cause you’re in for a disappointment!

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Three Up:

Chandler Parsons: My beloved rookie of face-punchitude showed tonight that he has some cut as a point forward if the need be. Parsons stat line won’t jump out at you with 2 points, 8 rebounds, and 3 assists but his defense on Kevin Durant can’t be understated. Parsons often seemed like the only Rocket willing to mix it up for the ball and willing to take the point on the 3 man weave and drive set the Rockets seem fond of running without Kyle directing traffic. At 6’10" Parsons was able to use his length to bother Kevin Durant and make him work while he was on the court (Kevin Durant scored 27 points on 25 shots). I always caution with rookie performances that their entire first year can be a mirage but for this year, since there’s so few scouting reports and tape on them it’s tough to plan around them.

McHale’s Lineup Shuffling: Entering the night the usual line up of Lowry/Martin/Budinger/Scola/Hill was impossible given Jeff Adrien’s ability to knock out a team’s best player and Dragic wasn’t enough to keep that lineup afloat. Tonight the Rockets put out Dragic/Martin/Parsons/Scola/Dalembert. I feel like this was for more length to bother the Thunder, and it worked, but unfortunately rebounding is not this unit’s strong suit. Granted this lineup tallied 19 rebounds out of a total 41 rebounds, good for half, but by watching the first quarter you would guess it was much less. After suffering through that debacle McHale shuffled his roster and made proper adjustments because the rebounding picked up. This shows proper adjustment and he’s playing the hand he’s dealt with the Flynn/Budinger lineup producing a combined -19 on the floor (-17 coming from Chase). I think Kevin did what he could and got the most out of his guys trying to keep them fresh.

Goran Dragic: Dragic followed up a double/double with 10/11 with a 20/8 night. I’m a fan of the fact that he can produce what he can and I was a fan of his moves towards the end of the game, right up until he passed to the first row at the Toyota Center (Which, admittedly some people were there, which means it’s easy to get confused that a player was open). I’m happy that he’s the Ryan Fitzpatrick of this team, a back up forced to start and capable of some impressive and some frustrating things. Goran and Fitzy will both get you something steady and will only implode when everything else is crumbling around them.

Three Down

First Quarter Rebounding: It was abysmal to start, as bad as 16-1 at the beginning of the first. This is mitigated by the fact that the only real rebounder on the floor was Samuel Dalembert and the Thunder were happy to play volleyball on the court to keep it away from him. These problems were resolved as the game went on but there’s no excuse for the production we saw at the beginning of the game.

Late Game Execution: Face it folks, these Rockets are young and inexperienced. Our veterans on the roster aren’t really the leadership type a la Chuck Hayes and Kevin is going to have to instill things in this team. It’s still early in the season and Kevin is placing his mark on this team. Dragic had a critical turnover but he also kept us alive at the end of the game. The team did manage to execute its plays but not play with enough calm to can the right shots or to slide where they needed to. Granted, any team tasked with overcoming Joey Crawford has a tall order but the Rockets had their foot down on the throttle and were forced to let up. They lead by as much as 10 in this game and the bench coughed it up. The bench managed to take that lead and fritter it away but what can you do when you’re dealing with what the Rockets have left?

Prospects: The Rockets are now 2-6 and through the first ten Morey was saying 3-7 would be coming out of it alright, 4-6 would be nicer. As it stands the Rockets have to play Charlotte, and San Antonio left. The Rockets can beat the Bobcats and certainly can beat the Spurs, as they’ve shown. I feel like 4-6 is attainable but that depends on the health of Kyle Lowry and how the team continues to manage halftime adjustments. Rockets fans need to understand this is a work in progress with lineups that will demand a great deal of tinkering and that is going to cost this team some wins. In the two wins they have accumulated, they’ve been impressive. The Rockets have faced a tough slate but we discussed this before in the fact that this team has not really changed and faces a Western Conference that improved across the board (generally). When you stay put but the rest of the water rises around you, there comes a point where you start to drown.

A Heads Up

The game tonight showed that Houston is in a place where they know they can compete it’s a matter of closing out games. I’m not a fan of the "learn how to win" idea because these guys are players, they know how to win, it’s asinine to assume they don’t. The Rockets need talent infusion and to not piss away a quarter of basketball recreationally. There are question marks at SF, an injury to Lee and Lowry shows how vulnerable we are at the 1 and 2 spots, and there isn’t enough muscle on the frontline to go head to head with any serious teams. The Thunder are a close model for the Rockets to follow. Stock your team with athletic players, get one with a lot of talent (Doesn’t even need to be at Duran’t level, so don’t use that line) and pair it with a beefy guy in the middle and teams will struggle. Lowry can pull the Westbrook role now we just need to find a rare talent at the 2 or 3 and we’ll be fine (As I find Dalembert can play the Perkins role).

Rockets fans also need to admit a few things when judging the game. Yes, some players make terrible moves but you need to watch the team rather than the individual. Flynn makes a lot of dumb plays, he also gets caught out in no man’s land when his team doesn’t try to get open and he gets the blame for dribbling things out, he deserves some, of course, but if his team isn’t helping his case as the point guard, the team needs a criticism as well. The next thing that needs to be admitted is that the Rockets are stocked with guys who can score, few who can do anything else, there’s a reason I was a Kawhi Leonard/Chris Singleton fan in this last draft as opposed to Morris. The Rockets need help defensively at the 3 and should have gone that route last year. I’m hoping the Rockets do poor enough to draft strong this year, I really do. I am still excited for this year’s roster and watching this team go forward but as a team where I get to watch Jordan Hill improve game to game.

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by Only_A_Lad on Jan 7, 2012 10:09 PM CST reply actions  

I don't even know what to say

but I wanted to comment because you took the time to recap. What a horrible season so far, I’m getting out the ice cream

by twinkilling0303 on Jan 7, 2012 10:15 PM CST reply actions  

This one wasn't so bad

After this loss I actually feel better than before. There were some problems, many problems, but overall it was a team learning how to work together but with a lot of potential and some effort on D. The last two losses were… disheartening.

I hate Road Rockets. I hate them so much. Clips were a nightmare matchup (somehow. It feels strange to say that, but htey were fresh, had a better PG, liked to run and had a strong inside presence). And then last game made me want to pull my kidneys out through my nose.

Losing by 3 to the Thunder, on the whole, isn’t embarrassing. Chandler’s D on Durant was sure not embarrassing. Home Rockets are a pretty solid team and are only going to get better as other teams are tuckering out in this brutal schedule. We’re gonna have a really good March, and maybe even see some playoffs.

But Home Rockets have to kill Road Rockets. Kill them now.

by DUNOTS on Jan 7, 2012 10:22 PM CST reply actions  

I'm as much a Jordan Hill guy as you BD

But he looks bad. I know he is playing out of position but he is not adjusting the way a third year player should. I know all the excuses we will give him and big men take longer but he does not have it in his head. The potential is there but he needs to start to turn that into production. Yes, the rebounding has improved, but what else has he added to his game? he really looks lost on defense and is not playing hard. When I watch a game I barely here his name get called for doing anything. He’s got to get it together and take those diapers off and shit in the toilet. No more flashes of potential, I want production.

I hate david stern!

by batman713 on Jan 7, 2012 10:50 PM CST reply actions  

All I said was I'm looking forward to seeing him play.

I think under McHale’s tutelage he’ll be fine. We tend to give guys 3 years to put it together, he is at year 2 at Center and he is working on his game against more powerful guys than he has played regularly. Even if he doesn’t pan out, I think he’s going to benefit in a major way from his time. Again, I’m about being entertained at this point, I don’t care if Hill makes a highlight reel.

by BD34 on Jan 7, 2012 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

The lockout really hurt his development the most in my opinion.

An entire offseason with one of the greatest post players ever could have done wonders for Hill thus doing wonders for the team. I’m not blaming Hill at all, just his situation. My fear is that most will not see it in this way and just judge the case without hearing it. That said, I still expected him to take that center position and make it his own for the team. The raves he was getting this past offseason were very encouraging. I am going to be hard on him because I really believe in the guy.

I hate david stern!

by batman713 on Jan 8, 2012 2:26 AM CST up reply actions  

I was just able to watch the game

What a heartbreaker. I think Parsons and Scola did well. Patterson is starting to return to his former self. Hill looked lost out there. This game was for us to take but we couldnt score at the end. On to the next one.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."
-Hakeem Olajuwon

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-Me

by Rockets4LIFE on Jan 7, 2012 11:04 PM CST reply actions  

Scola doesn't get a write up for me because he's consistent.

I’m only concerned about his mileage at ~35 minutes or so per game lately.

by BD34 on Jan 7, 2012 11:05 PM CST up reply actions  

the mileage is definitely showing

he was struggling at the endgame today. lots of open looks were short because he didn’t have his legs.

by sohum on Jan 7, 2012 11:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Me too

I think that when P2 is his old self, which should be a lot closer now, especially after the improvement last game, Scola will get less minutes.

"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."
-Hakeem Olajuwon

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by Rockets4LIFE on Jan 8, 2012 12:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I wanna see more T-Will

I have been a fan ever since he got here. Last year, he didnt really get a chance to play, but now he is only getting somewhat of an opportunity. I think highly of Parsons, but we didnt give up a first rounder for him, so lets give terrence a chance. He seems to have been playing well lately, especially improving his three point shot. He is supremely gifted, and needs the chance to shine. I thought once courtney and kyle went down, he would be playing a lot more, but that is not the case so far. He is playing more minutes, but i want him in the game rather than kevin martin even jonny flynn. What do yall think?

by astrosfan3 on Jan 7, 2012 11:10 PM CST reply actions  

Were not giving up that first rounder unless we get better fast.

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by darwithabar on Jan 8, 2012 2:11 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I think as the season wears on

Terrence Williams will win the starter spot over bud.

"He was in my way, so I got him out of the way." - Arian Foster

by Catallac392 on Jan 7, 2012 11:18 PM CST reply actions  

Reply fail

lol

"He was in my way, so I got him out of the way." - Arian Foster

by Catallac392 on Jan 7, 2012 11:18 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm a chandler parsons fan

he hustles on defense and on the glass. we need that. there were at least 2-3 instances today where he just went and got the ball because he wanted it more. his shot seems quite inconsistent, though. he can drive to the basket. if he gets his shot consistent, he’ll be like a chase budinger with defensive skills.

i’m hoping to see lowry-martin-parsons-scola-dalembert on monday against the cats. i think that is probably the strongest defensive lineup we can put up with this roster.

by sohum on Jan 7, 2012 11:24 PM CST reply actions  

I like Parsons too

But I don’t think he’s likely to get much better. He’s 22 and played 4 years at Florida; while he may improve just by adjusting to NBA play, I don’t think he’s going to get much better on a skills level.

That said, he’s still a good player, and probably the best all-around 3 we have on the roster right now.

by ehburrus on Jan 7, 2012 11:39 PM CST up reply actions  

yeah, his ceiling doesn't appear to be very high

but he could develop into a solid role player. he has the athleticism, the nose for rebounds and an inconsistent jumper. getting the three-pointer out to about 35-40% would make him very valuable, especially since he appears to be a lot better defensively one-on-one than others in the team.

by sohum on Jan 8, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Im not worried about him being inconsistent on offense

Look what Lowry did to his jumper here in Houston. I like Parsons’ defense a lot. I was at the game and he was all hustle on defense and rebounding.

I would love to see a Lowry/Martin/Parsons/Scola/Dalembert line up. Bud is way better coming off the bench defending back ups and scoring on them at will.

by Texas08 on Jan 9, 2012 7:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I’m ok with that lineup.

Some of y’all need to chill out with the negativity, we haven’t played a team we were favored to beat yet. I’m nothing but encouraged by this team… (except Hill).

by Christopher Dion Harris on Jan 8, 2012 12:20 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

BD, are you a Bills fan?

Because after living in Rochester for a half a year, they’re my second favorite NFL team now.

Also, I hope Dragic doesn’t turn the ball over as often as Fitz.

by ehburrus on Jan 7, 2012 11:35 PM CST reply actions  

Born and raised in upstate New York (Thousand Islands region).

Fitzy’s turnovers tend to happen because of a bad decision on his part (underthrows, etc…) and what I’ve seen from Dragic is he’s very steady but when he screws up, it’s one of those “We didn’t really need that to happen…” moments like Fitzpatrick has.

by BD34 on Jan 8, 2012 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Rebounding was great after the first quarter

16-1 out of 42 in the first so that leaves us with 18-7 with the remaining 25 rebounds.

Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!

by OJ ATM on Jan 7, 2012 11:50 PM CST reply actions  

Check your Twitter.

So, we ended up with 40 rebounds and they had 28 after the 16-1 stint. Not bad.

Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!

by OJ ATM on Jan 8, 2012 12:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Hated the late game slow-down offense

Around the 2 minute mark,up by three,the Rockets started to do something I hated when Adelman did it,they tried to milk the clock by just standing around til 10-11 seconds to go,then went into offense. Three straight times they did it and three straight times they came away w/no points.
Thought it was very poor strategy and reminder McHale is actually a fairly inexperienced Head Coach.
OTOH,it appeared Adelman did it to develop Lowry as a closer and McHale may have had same intention w/the young players out there.
But,Id still argue he should have taken Scola out and replaced him w/Bud formore 3pt shooting.

by Tisbee on Jan 8, 2012 12:28 AM CST reply actions  

Yikes!

Must proof read….must proof read…must proof read…

by Tisbee on Jan 8, 2012 12:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Bleeding the clock is common though.

It’s the only thing to do, honestly. You got the lead, time is winding down, just take the time away from the other team. I do understand where you’re coming from though, this team isn’t good enough to get away with that kind of game plan.

by BD34 on Jan 8, 2012 12:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Kills momentum

The crowd was into it,the team was starting to roll. That’s the issue I have w/the “stall”,it just totally kills momentum. I understand the reasoning,just don’t like it :)

by Tisbee on Jan 8, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

No doubt this team can't pull of that kind of clock management

It would mean we know we can get a stop at the other end and score at ours at will. Really not us yet.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 8, 2012 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

If you’ve got Chris Paul or Rondo, who can get a shot within 5 seconds anytime he wants it, then fine. Otherwise, run the offense and take the first good shot. Unless it’s a clear 2-for-1 or final shot situation. The NBA shot clock is so damn short, you’re really only wasting 7-8 seconds or so. In college, those extra 11 seconds are a big difference.

by Metalate on Jan 9, 2012 12:53 PM CST up reply actions  

better for it

In general play I still think these guys are underdone and I can’t blame McHale for that. Bit shocked with Parsnip (good second round choice by the rockets again). Still would like to see more of a few of the younger guys but there is probably only 9 ok players on our roster in reality.

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by craigj007 on Jan 8, 2012 1:11 AM CST reply actions  

CP-OK?

Have to say I was initially shocked to see Parsons starting tonight (knowing very little about him) but ended up pleasantly surprised. The guys got the length and athleticism to trouble the best scorer in the world now but id love to see how he’d go after a couple off-seasons in the gym! He seemed a little hesitant offensively compared with some of his previous performances, perhaps a result of feeling undeserved of his starting role. It will be interesting to see how he goes in the next couple of games, should he be required to start again. Anyway a pleasing effort from a second round rookie yeah.

by OzDreamShaker34 on Jan 8, 2012 7:24 AM CST via Android app reply actions  

Good write-up BD

I was so sure we were going to get Kawhi in the draft. Still wish we had. You and I both saw this coming. It never fails some people are going to stay delusional. I’m not at all shocked by their record. I’m not prone to excuses, but no offseason, a new coach and system, new players, too many one dimensional players, etc, etc. Not being debbie downer, but lets all think about he long term. We’ll get a great pick, maybe two, in a deep draft this year. Next year McHale will have a full year with the guys and we’ll see what we can get done.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 8, 2012 9:14 AM CST reply actions  

I don't watch enough NCAA to comment on Leonard's actual skills

but I would have liked to have him on the Rockets just so I could keep making that “Kawaii Leonard :3 :3 :3 uguu~” joke every day.

A JOKE WHICH NOT ONE OF YOU APPRECIATES GODDAMMIT

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 8, 2012 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Skills still developing

Athleticism is his best asset right now.

I hate david stern!

by batman713 on Jan 8, 2012 8:23 PM CST up reply actions  

I was upset when we passed Leonard, I had him on 7 or so on my draft board.

Then again the Spurs wanted him enough to trade up for him, which for me is a HUGE sign of quality because of the way that organization is run.

by BD34 on Jan 8, 2012 9:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree

Its not that I think Morris will end up a horrible player, but he’s out of position here. I just worry he’s not going to be able to convert to the 3 as well. He’ll struggle against some of these stud SFs due to his lack of lateral quickness and no length to make up for it. CP isn’t the fastest dude, but he’s crazy long. The knock on Leonard was that he had no offense, but he’s picking that up.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 8, 2012 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

My stance has always been simple.

Houston can put the ball in the basket. They can’t defend for shit. If Leonard or Singleton didn’t play much offense, who cares, they were defensive guys and that’s just what the doctor ordered AND at the pick, you get BPA AND talent. Instead we go for a 6’9" offensive player that we hope to convert to the three because he’s lanky rather than taking the 6’7" defensive SF.

by BD34 on Jan 8, 2012 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah I've made my peace with it

but I was shocked when we drafted Morris, because I was one of the people that thought avoiding the Morris Twins is better. From a physical stand point, while the twins are tall, they have below average wingspans for their height, and lack of lateral quickness, both of which has serious defensive implications. They do have the pedigree form programs that wins and teach great basketball, I was a big fan of Singleton, but knew that 14 might be high for him

It does however seems like that Morey has always pick players that are further along on their development path, rather than banking of young potential. I could make a case for Landry, Brooks, Budinger, Patterson, Batum maybe the only exception, but he was traded to other teams

by NVP on Jan 8, 2012 11:14 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

I deplore the Morris pickup

but it is what it is. Nothing against the guy personally. And I hope and pray he turns into a badass and gains quality time playing down in RGV. However, he was not the player we needed after losing Shane. I understand DM is trying to thing 3 moves ahead and assumed something would go down like the “almost” trade. However, Leonard would have been good here no matter who we traded for, seems like Morris will only fit with 2 seven footers in the paint to make up for his lack of defensive prowess. Hence, while as of right now he was not playing well for the most part when he was here and is in the D-league and the 2nd round pick is more mature as a player due to his experience in college and is able to help more right away.

Make no mistake. This team is F’ed up right now and Les, DM, and McHale know it. Not anyone’s fault and they have tried but we just gotta ride this out. It will get better.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 8, 2012 12:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

and if it’s any consolation… Morris did have 33 pts and 16 rebounds in his first game, then followed it up with another 30+ point game.

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Jan 8, 2012 1:28 PM CST up reply actions  

I heard bout that

and I am cautiously optimistic about his performance. I’m sure he will be fine. Though Adrien was one of the best players in the D-league last year and this year he’s been only good for taking out our best player in practice, lol. My only chief concern is that though he may become a solid rotation player, it would have to be a place where his strengths and weaknesses compliment his teammates. Right now, that is not here.

But, who knows what is going to happen in the future?

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 8, 2012 2:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Jeff Adrien was a fine bench player

For Golden State when they needed him, He suffers for being a 6-7 post only player, but if he had some patience on the court, he’d be a solid contributor.

I watched Morris’s both D-league action, while he does score, I cant say I was very impressed. They do try to feed Morris and with Morris’s height he can shoot over people with ease, and rebounds well when he’s in the paint. His post play is also very good, polished enough to have me think why we’re not using him more on the post.

Things I dont like were the fact that he does settle for a 20ft fade away quite a bit, which is one of the worst shots in basketball in mt mind. His 3 pt shot is not consistent he can light it up, but he can also easily go cold, It’s something I wish he can shelf along with that long fade until he develop it a bit more, but clearly he’s a good perimeter shooter, just not yet used to the 3pt range of the NBA.

Things that are problematic are the fact that Morris doesnt pursuit very well off a pick or screen, and sometimes has a tendency to give up on a play like that, also I dont think he’s very effective drifting on the weak side where he doesnt really get noticed and get involved in plays

by NVP on Jan 8, 2012 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I watched his games as well

and you pretty much hit the nails on the head. I despise 20 ft. shots. Such a low reward shot.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 8, 2012 9:27 PM CST up reply actions  

My thing is

If the Rockets were looking for a SF why didnt they draft one who actually played that position? Didnt Morris play mostly the 4 at Kansas, I cant remember. There were plently of players still on the table who had played the 3 position in college and HS. This team needs all the help it can get, why not get someone who can come in and help now? Parsosns is able to come in and contribute now, why cant Morris

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by fanoflosingteams on Jan 8, 2012 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

That was my question

like I said, I think he just doesn’t fit this personnel grouping well, not that he’s a bad player or a bust.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 8, 2012 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I too wanted a tall,defensive SF(my pref was Singleton)

But to be fair,Morris was supposed to have a strong low-post game and that was something distinctly lacking on the Rockets. And T-Will was supposed to be able to play D and was going to be freed.

The pick felt like a bit of a reach,in that Morey hoped Morris could develop into a 20pt scorer.
Instead of hitting a solid single up the middle,Morey swung for the fences.

As for line-up fit,consider this is one of options Morey has/had in mind.
Courtney Lee will take over at SG(w/Martin ultimately traded,or leaving when his contract expires). This leaves a scoring void,but adds a solid defender. Morris,as a scoring SF replaces Bud,who becomes a solid scoring reserve.
Meanwhile theDraft has 3 prospect Cs,1 or 2 of whom will likely slip to where Rockets expect to draft(either own pick or Knicks).
The Rockets end up moving forward w/Lowry,Lee,Morris starting,T-Will and Bud off bench and bigs in Scola,Patterson,Motie and the drafted C-and plenty of cap room.

Finally,if Morey was already in prelim talks about acquiring Gasol,then Morris makes some sense in that Gasol is really not a low-post player,so there’d be room for Morris to set up down low.

by Tisbee on Jan 8, 2012 2:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Thats what I was basically saying

He doesn’t fit YET, but is still in the future plans for the personnel grouping that DM is striving for. Just presently he has a problem fitting.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 8, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I think what Nazr Mohamed did to Jordan Hill is illegal in most states...

to me Hill has been the biggest disappointment, and there’s no more excuses.
I actually liked the change to the starting lineup, Buddinger is the 4th option as a starter, and obviously he is skilled enough offensively to get going with the second unit, as he did last night.
Kevin Martin is being more aggressive, that’s a start at least.
Dragic is a baller.
Dalambert is out of shape.
Twill plays great when he’s under control.
Flynn is terrible.
Parsons may be Ryan Bowen 2.0, but with more offensive skill. Which I am totally cool with. He frustrated KD during a stretch of last night’s game.

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Jan 8, 2012 10:44 AM CST reply actions  

ah hell

If Ryan Bowen had some offense, he would have had a solid job as a bench player in the league and giving Parsons a starting job turned out to be a rather brilliant play since we are hurting for some rebounds.

by NVP on Jan 8, 2012 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

our record this season is the same as last year... 2-6

and that included losses against the likes of the warriors and the wizards. in fact, our first 2 wins last season were against minnesota and indiana, compared to this year, when we’ve beaten the spurs (2nd in the west) and atlanta (5th in the east). in fact, the clippers are the only non-playoff team from last year we’ve played thus far and they’re looking like they’ll make it this year.

let’s hold off judgment until we’ve played some of the weaker teams.

by sohum on Jan 8, 2012 2:23 PM CST reply actions  

Good point

but at the same time I don’t think we’re where we were at last year concerning chemistry and scheme. As I’ve said, lets wait and see. I want to merely point out that I’m not going to be mad if we have a crappy year. I expect it due to mitigating extraneous variables. Many people are getting huffy about folks getting excited about Parsons or Twill or Dragic, but that’s what fans of REBUILDING teams do. Those are our little victories that don’t show up on the box score.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 8, 2012 2:30 PM CST up reply actions  

So let's lose to the good teams and pick on the bad teams?

Save the small statistical outliers that are bound to happen this season, it’s looking pretty .500.

Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.

by .Bonzo on Jan 8, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

.500 seems way optimistic.

It’s not just that we’re 2-6.
The six losses are by 9, 20, 9, 28, 14, 3 points.
We have the second-worst differential (-6.6, ahead of Sacramento) in the Western Conference. We lost our two best defenders from a year ago (three if you count Yao). And the Martin-Bud-Scola pairing looks like the worst defensive lineup at 2-4 that I can possibly imagine. This is quickly starting to look like the complete rebuilding situation that so many around here wanted all along.

by Metalate on Jan 9, 2012 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I can foresee that

Another month of so of similar results is enough of a sample size for the FO to decide whether they want to keep some of the guys they could feasibly get solid picks for. Thing is you will seldom see a good return on a player for a pick trade. Most of the teams that would want Martin and Scola are playoff caliber and therefore have crappy picks.

We’ll just have to wait and see what happens. Alot can happen with this team. Players are going to develop chemistry and McHale will have his input. We may make good progress and do nothing, but I doubt it.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 9, 2012 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Morris's Second Game at RGV:

Faced Dakota Wizards again, this time the Vipers won, though. Morris had 32 points, 12 rebounds, 2 assists, 1 steal, 2 turnovers. 12-20 shooting, 7-11 at the line.

If nothing else, he has shown that he is the Dakota Wizards Killer.

Highlights and boxscore here. I like the NBADL highlights guy. Threw in a “boom goes the dynamite” with his very subdued call. Rockets should hire him to replace Worrell.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 8, 2012 10:10 PM CST reply actions  

Replace Worrell?

no no no no no no

Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.

by .Bonzo on Jan 9, 2012 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Lowry’s back in practice today, hopes to play tomorrow.

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