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Rockets' Needs Remain the Same Through 8 Games

I know it's lonely, Kevin. Keep your head up.

As the Rockets have so painfully demonstrated in the last three seasons, there is nothing more difficult in the NBA than replacing stars. Five years ago, the Rockets started Tracy McGrady at the small forward spot and Yao Ming at center. Now, those roles are held by rookie Chandler Parsons and our favorite goaltender Samuel Dalembert.

Both have outperformed expectations to a certain degree (Parsons certainly more so than Dalembert), but the fact that their roles are so large speaks volumes about where the Rockets are today. As easy as it once was to say that the Rockets are the model for depth and all that, great teams need quality depth to succeed, and that is simply lacking on this roster.

So for now, just as nearly every analyst preached in the off-season, the Rockets needs remain the same: first and foremost finding a star, but also filling the small forward and center spots adequately.

Star-divide

Much has been written here and on other Rockets blogs on the merits of blowing it up and rebuilding. This process likely would begin with the trades of Luis Scola and Kevin Martin for a combination expiring contracts, young prospects, and draft picks and finish with a 20 win season.

This rebuilding effort would theoretically set the Rockets up for a top draft pick in a strong draft, cap space to go after free agents, and young pieces to build around. Unfortunately, the NBA does not work in theory. Les Alexander will not be tanking; that is simply not his style. With that in mind, Daryl Morey has to do all he can to build a strong roster without getting really bad for a few years, and filling the gaping hole at small forward and the somewhat smaller but still open hole at center would be a great start on the journey back to the playoffs.

Both Chase Budinger and Chandler Parsons are overachievers for when they were drafted. Budinger showed that he has the chops to rebound, shoot, and cut to the basket in his rookie year, but his struggles in creating his own offense and inability to lock down scorers presents issues. Parsons is an equally intriguing specimen—he has plus size, decent athleticism, and creates mismatches as a point forward. However, his scoring struggles will likely hold him back from ever being a starting quality small forward.

Marcus Morris is yet another intriguing player, but it remains to be seen whether he will be able to defend his position at the next level. He is putting up some gaudy stats during his stint in the D-League, but his struggles so far seem to be related to his inability to beat NBA defenders, something he'll have to adjust to quickly.

Finally, there's T-Will. Some love him, some hate him, some just want him to get off Twitter already. He excels at getting to the lane and he has moments of brilliance, but he can't seem to score once he gets there and has developed a habit of turning the ball over inside.

There's four players there that have shown some potential of turning into great players for the Rockets, but counting on any of them to develop into anything better than bench players might be a mistake. They need to start someone there, so each of these guys will get their shot at playing time, but going after an upgrade has to be a priority for Dork Elvis. I'm 100% speculating, but two-way players like Andre Iguodala, Gerald Wallace (ya right), or Wesley Johnson would be worth targeting. When Wilson Chandler returns from China, going after him in a sign-and-trade would have to be a consideration.

The center situation is certainly clearer right now, but anybody who thinks Samuel Dalembert is going to be on this team in two seasons is kidding themselves (and likely not even next year). From the time Dalembert signed, nobody regarded him as anything more than a band-aid. Watching him play, it's difficult to call his play anything more than adequate. If the Rockets are serious about moving forward without getting bad, they'll have to take a hard look at finding someone a bit better than "meh" at that spot.

If only Marcin Gortat had read all those emails I sent him at Rocketsfanslovegortat@gmail.com!

I've said this a million times before and I'll continue to say it: the Rockets have to make a move one way or the other to save themselves from the fate of the current Phoenix Suns. They're stuck in the land of mediocrity, too solid to get an impact draft pick, but too ill-equipped to win a championship. Lateral moves be damned, we need a small forward and center to compete in the West.

LeBron James wouldn't hurt either.

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Wes Johnson

Pretty sure the TWolves would give him to us if we promised not to tell anyone they used the 4th pick in the draft on him. Not the type of guy I would target.

by seanbergmanrules on Jan 9, 2012 6:37 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

He just doesn't seem like a good fit in Minny anymore

With D-Williams, Beasley, and other forwards on the roster, there’s really no space for him at the 3 so they’re having to play him at the 2 a lot. All indications are that the experiment isn’t working very well.

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by Patrick Harrel on Jan 9, 2012 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

you're right about that....

he has another goose egg tonight, his stat line in 19 minutes is 0 pts, 1 rb, 1 ast…
His last 3 games:
5 pts, 2 rbs, 1 ast
2 pts, 3 rbs, 3 ast
3 pts, 3, rbs, 0 ast

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Jan 9, 2012 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Hmmm... Syracuse guy in Minnesota playing poorly...

OH GOD FLYNN 2.0 RANT RANT RANT RANT.

Just kidding, I f*cking want Wesley Johnson.

by BD34 on Jan 10, 2012 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Concerning the 3 spot

I still see most of the players you listed as one dimensional. I’m not a Wallace or Iggy fan, and neither are the fans of the teams they’re on. I believe the would easily be an upgrade, but at the cost of cap flexibility and we would still be sitting at mediocrity. Also, Parsons had offense in college and is a rookie, just like Morris. However, teaching a player to defend in the league is harder then putting baskets in the bucket, and we need defense right now. Parsons will be better then some, worse then others. Same with the rest. They are rookies and we can’t lose sight of that.

It’s still early. Lots can happen, we’re only 8 games in. However, everyone should now see how Les’ stance on improving the roster is going to hamstring us.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 9, 2012 6:51 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Parsons's scoring was not a huge strength in college

And Wallace and Iggy are not one dimensional at all. Neither is anything close to a #1 option, but they’re terrific defenders (Iggy especially) and rebounders (Wallace rspecially).

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by Patrick Harrel on Jan 9, 2012 6:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sorry for possible misinterpretation

I truly believe that Iggy and Wallace would be an upgrade. You’d have to be certifiable to believe they wouldn’t. I am simply saying that they have their own issues in their games, or health. Also, I wasn’t attempting to paint Parsons as an offensive juggernaut, but that his offensive game so far is a very small sample at the NBA level. If it doesn’t improve he would be labeled as the antithesis of Bud and would be summarily shot. I just feel like he is more of what we need right now with the personnel we have.

Then again people commenting at the Chron believe that DM and McHale hate black people by having Parsons start over Morris and sending him to the D-league. I’m not making that shit up. Wasn’t just one or two trolls, but tons of people. That is why I love my home here, hehe.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 9, 2012 7:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Saying that Iggy is "one-dimensional" is a bit like saying that Babe Ruth "wasn't a great home run hitter."

The same is true of Wallace, though to a lesser degree.

Iggy’s chief advantage is that he is basically very good at every facet of the game — he’s a good rebounder, good ball handler, good passer and play-creater, and good scorer. His only weakness is a poor jump shot, but that’s offset by a decent enough three point shot and phenomenal finishing ability at the rim.

Wallace is more one dimensional, but that’s just because he’s such a fantastic rebounder. He’s also a decent scorer, finisher, and defender.

by Only_A_Lad on Jan 9, 2012 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Keys to be Contenders by 2014

1. Kevin Martin and Luis Scola have to be traded at least by 2012 draft night. There are a handful of teams with no wing depth and Kevin Martin can put up 30 points on any given night. Oh and every other night, he will do it in 13 shots. We might be able to get a late lottery pick outta him, and perhaps a young future energy player (think Gerald Wallace trade, but better since this is Daryl and not Mj) or maybe just a future piece to a championship puzzle (Wesley Johnson, Derrick Williams, Gordan Hayward, etc.). We shouldnt have much problem getting something outta him. Getting something other than an expiring contract outta scola might be difficult. But we might be able to get a late first round pick and a young player if we are lucky (or if our gm is an evil genius).
2. We MUST move up the draft. Drafting a guy like Harrison Barnes to help us at the 3 would be fantastic. This will be very difficult but there will be teams like the kings who will need to fill out the roster with glue guys and vets rather than another young shoot first stud. T wolves and raptors are another team that comes to mind ( if their pick is protected).
3. KEEP LOWRY AT ALL COSTS. (unless its derrick rose, kevin durant, or dwight howard willing to be at htown for the rest of his career. In that case trade him, i guess)
4. Either spend more time developing thabeet or draft a more ready bigman. Daryl Morey knows how to draft.
5. Keep Dalembert next year, hopefully the year after that too until he is worn off.

by Ani Kumar on Jan 9, 2012 7:11 PM CST reply actions  

Solid points Ani

I agree with 1, 3, and 4. Point 2 might be a moot exercise if we end up having a horrible record enough to get in the top 5 anyway. And holy crap if NYK ends up in the lottery but right outside of the top 5. As far as point 5, I need to see more out of Sammy. He has not rebounded and blocked as well as I had hoped. Also, the whole “7 footer” is all we need argument is refuted. Chucks D was better and I doubt we would have gotten scored on near as much as we have.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 9, 2012 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Sigh

People (mostly Houston “fans” the rest of the NBA forgot we had a team) never look at our situation in context.

@ Orlando L 95-104
vs San Antonio W 105-85
@ Memphis L 93-113
vs Atlanta W 95-84
@ LA Lakers L 99-108
@ LA Clippers L 89-117
@ Oklahoma City L 94-109
vs Oklahoma City L 95-98

Name 3 teams on that list we were supposed to beat going in to this year…. Even if we were able to pull off the Nene/Gasol thing, we’d still be struggling right now with that schedule. Right now, the team is about where it’s supposed to be for us to be in the mix any of the bottom 3 playoff seeds out West.

The kids don’t quit, we have a very versatile roster, we have a top 3-5 pg in the league, we have cap flexibility, and (maybe) multiple draft picks. Become concerned when we start losing to the Sixers, Kings, or Bobcats but quitting on the Rockets because they lose to the Thunder, Orlando, Memphis, Clips, and Lakers (on the road with a ton of questionable officiating) is kinda sad and premature.

by Christopher Dion Harris on Jan 9, 2012 7:42 PM CST up reply actions  

and to add

I do agree that the ultimate goal is to be upper echelon, elite, but we are just a year removed from the remnants of TMac’s and Yao’s contracts, so replacing those guys is a process. Even if we had the first pick in this draft we wouldn’t replace either player’s production immediately, not a realistic goal. Just build organically and pray for an elite pick or player to fall to us.

by Christopher Dion Harris on Jan 9, 2012 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

to be fair...

we’ve pretty much been blown out on the road every game.
but yes, we’ve played 8 playoff caliber teams, and they are exactly where i expected them to be at this point. However, the next 2 games will be telling….
@ Charlotte – Finally a non-playoff eastern conference team
@ SA- San Antonio without Ginobili may not even be a top 8 team in the West. I am expecting them to lose, but it’s a game looking back where you can say, they should have won.
To add… a team that brings it every night at home and looks un-interested on the road is an example of poor coaching. Yes the Rockets are a young team, but with the exception of Parsons, they have plenty of game experience and should know how to prepare for a game at home or on the road.

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Jan 9, 2012 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

So you're point is "we're losing but we're losing to good teams."

And the thinking is that this losing habit will continue because we’re not losing competitively (Generally). We tend to get bent right over and receive the business. So, long and short, losses are losses.

by BD34 on Jan 9, 2012 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I rather lose early

and build momentum toward the end of the season that can carry into the next

As long as our coaches and players are learning from these loss, I’d accept them as growing pains.

Chandler Parsons for example is proving himself to be an excellent pick, and Patterson is slowly playing back into shape

by NVP on Jan 9, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't buy the "momentum heading into next season" stuff.

One season ends, another stats, they’re new things with an entire offseason in between. To me all that happens there is that they deal with the fact that they missed the post season and they look at how good or bad they were.

I would say you’re seriously overrating Parsons to go with “excellent pick” because it ignores the fact that every rookie can have a good year and immediately slump afterwards (Unless we don’t want to pay attention to immediate history like with Chase Budinger). I can’t be the only person who is not going to keep praising the Rockets for getting surprising players in the second round. I want franchise guys in the first. I’m sick of manufacturing pats on the back for this team.

by BD34 on Jan 9, 2012 9:06 PM CST up reply actions  

from where Parson is picked and his contract

and for a player we dont have to commit to to be useful, I’d say it’s a excellent use of a second round. I might be ignoring the fact that rookies can have good seasons, but I’d argue most rookie doesnt even have that good year.

I think I have different definition of momentum than you in this case. The momentum I speak of is maturation of younger players and learning how to win games. it doesnt matter if we makes to the playoff, in fact it’s more favorable we dont, but it does matter to see Patrick Patterson average doubles double toward the end, Jordan Hill actually rotating correctly, Macrus Morris actually becoming the scorer we envisioned against NBA competition. I think developments against real competition is something that cant be emulated, and it sets an attainable goal for next season

by NVP on Jan 9, 2012 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

well, except for the sense of hope

when young team play well toward the end of the season, there’s hope and expectation the regular development doesnt really give you

by NVP on Jan 9, 2012 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

not at all

Just saying that we have a very incomplete picture of the team right now. Give it time, let the schedule even out a bit and then evaluate. The sky isn’t falling. We have a very real chance at being better than the Mavs, Spurs (longshot), Hornets, and Memphis this year in the long run.

by Christopher Dion Harris on Jan 9, 2012 11:55 PM CST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Wha...?

I can see us possibly being better than the Hornets, but 3 playoff teams? One being last years Champs? Those teams have something we don’t, established stars. Dirk, Parker, Z-Bo, etc. I can see no scenario where we would be better than them this year. I’m not being a chicken little, just a realist. I won’t be as disappointed as some with the most likely outcome.

"Listen here you beautiful bitch, I'm about to fuck you up with some truth" - Kenny Powers

by A.J. G on Jan 10, 2012 6:10 AM CST up reply actions  

Really?

1)If Kevin Martin could score 30 points on 13 shots every other night we wouldn’t be 2-6. You’re seriously over rating Martin by saying that.
2)I agree, we have to either acquire a pick in that range or trade up for it. We need a potential superstar type player on our team.
3)Kyle Lowry isn’t in that bracket yet, he’s playing great so far, but to put him with the Dhoward/KD/Rose/Lebron bracket is way too much praise for him.
4)I love Thabeet, but they’re not going to give him the chance.

Dallas and Houston fan making it work. Gig 'em!

by OJ ATM on Jan 9, 2012 8:46 PM CST up reply actions  

He didnt put Lowry in that Bracket

He said dont trade him unless youre getting back that type of player. he didnt say trade him straight up.

Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?

by darwithabar on Jan 10, 2012 2:38 AM CST up reply actions  

This whole Marcus Morris situation

just seems fishy as heck to me…
Not that i disagree with sending him down, but just that draft pick in general. I was convinced we made that draft selection for another team, I guess time will tell. Should be another interesting season full of rumors and active trde talks.

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Jan 9, 2012 7:43 PM CST reply actions  

In response to your signature.

Have you heard “There There” by Radiohead?

Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.

by .Bonzo on Jan 9, 2012 7:57 PM CST up reply actions  

no i haven't

i guess i should youtbe it.

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Jan 9, 2012 8:18 PM CST up reply actions  

If it's not your type of music than it's just a waste of time.

I thought maybe your signature had something to do with it.

Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.

by .Bonzo on Jan 9, 2012 9:31 PM CST up reply actions  

haha no...

it’s for people who discriminate against fake breasts and claim “well they are not real.” Obviously that’s non-sense.

If you can feel them, they are real.

by jake_471 on Jan 9, 2012 10:05 PM CST up reply actions  

same here with drafting Morris

If they wanted a SF, then draft a SF. Why draft a PF and hope he becomes the next Melo, as Morris somewhat stated in his press conference.

"Stability is a factor in teams that win the championship. But if you stabilize on a team that's going to end up short of that, then all you're doing is spinning your wheels in the 45-win range."-----Daryl Morey

by fanoflosingteams on Jan 9, 2012 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

I wonder if we can get Evan Turner. He and Iggy are redundant

by VBG on Jan 9, 2012 8:15 PM CST reply actions  

The 76ers are having a good season and right now Iggy is a lot better than Evan Turner. There’s a reason Iggy plays twice as many minutes

by VBG on Jan 9, 2012 8:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Evan Turner! 2010 Busts, an upgrade from the 2009 Busts?

No but for real, Turner isn’t good at all. I haven’t watched him play this year but last year he was absolutely awful and didn’t show much promise at all. That “Brandon Roy” like game doesn’t have much emphasis to it when you can’t hit a jumpshot to save your life. But I don’t know, learning to shoot is probably the easiest progression an NBA player can make.

Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.

by .Bonzo on Jan 9, 2012 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

my screen name gives up my bias

but it also means i have seen a hell of alot of that kid play. he can score and handle the ball. we played him @ 3 up here and he did fine. He rebounds, and passes well. but his D is not an improvement. but i do like him.

by BuckeyeBob on Jan 9, 2012 11:55 PM CST up reply actions  

also he shot pretty well in college. he gets no PT there.

by BuckeyeBob on Jan 9, 2012 11:56 PM CST up reply actions  

He actually has looked pretty good in short minutes this year

Needs to be consistent though.

Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?

by darwithabar on Jan 10, 2012 2:40 AM CST up reply actions  

If they're redundant they're the same.

This post shows you clearly didn’t mean to use the term redundant.

by BD34 on Jan 9, 2012 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

I've been saying that since last season.

They could really use a scorer like Martin and we could really use a young potential stud like Turner. The problem is the surrounding parts of the deal and getting salaries to match. Do we include Scola and Take back Brand? Do they want to give up Brand and Turner who are decent 2-way players for two one-dimensional players? Is Scola regressing from last season? So many questions to ask with a deal like this but if I’m Daryl Morey I take that shot. I makes sense on so many levels.

I hate david stern!

by batman713 on Jan 9, 2012 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't expect much until march

I doubt we’ll see anything until the trade deadline. And precedent suggests we’ll see something involving players that are less than big-name. The only two big deals I could see happening are:

1) Scola/martin for cap relief and prospects. This only happens if the team is not managing to be competitive at all by then (and who knows, right now?) and even Les can’t stop the tank from dropping, or there is an understanding with one of the big 2012 free agents that probably isn’t supposed to be happening.

2) Unexpected superstar trade. Everything involving starter-grade players is going to be toward this end. It’s very unlikely, but hey, maybe the Lakers will be disintegrating and the Rox’ll get Gasol anyway. Or maybe Dwight Howard will wake up with an irresistible urge to be on a team with Courtney Lee and will agree to an extension in a trade (or maybe that was just in Morey’s recurring dream. Hard to tell).

Get used to this lineup. It’s here for a couple more months, and probably a good bit longer. On the plus side, if McHale keeps going like three deep every game, Houston’s got a good shot at developing bench players and staying relatively fresh while other (better) teams are (maybe [hopefully]) getting all tuckered out near the trade deadline.

by DUNOTS on Jan 9, 2012 10:45 PM CST reply actions  

Likely,but...

If Minn keeps being in games that they lose and their SGs continue to s***,the offers for Martin will get better. It will be telling what Morey will accept for Martin. Expiring contracts,going hard at 2012 Free Agency. Young talent,he’s rebuilding.
I will be shocked if Martin is still on roster July 1. Whether it’s at the end of the month once Lee proves he’s healthy,at deadline,in a Draft deal,he’s gone.

Thinking about it,I doubt Scola gets traded. Morey attempted to get a very good big for Scola’s contract and I doubt that happens again. I think we’ll see Scola transition to third big next yr,coming in for Patterson and whoever the C ends up being. While Scola will be making $9,$10mil the next couple of years and that’s pretty hefty for a reserve,it won’t be out of line for the Rockets.
(Look up the salary figures and assuming Lee gets a MLE deal-young teams aren’t going to throw money at a non-star,and contending teams will only have the MLE-the Rockets will have $20mil+ in Cap room with Scola.) Unless the Rockets think they can sign 2 Max FAs,they actually need Scola’s contract as they have to have a minimum salary of at least 85% of cap.
The rest of the team will be pretty young so keeping Scola as a vet leader starts to make sense. Plus as a reserve,the bench can run their offense thru him when they struggle.

While I would like the Rockets to get a top pick,that means the Rockets will have missed Play-Offs for 3 yrs and counting,and if it’s a top pick that means the team is pretty wretched so that’s another yr out.
The nice part about this yrs Draft is there are 3 prospect Cs,6’10"+,a couple of whom should be available in mid Rds,where the Rockets will be drafting w/the Knicks pick. Motie will be coming over,so the Rockets will have some decent bigs in Scola,Patterson,Motie,Rookie C.
T-Will will have cemented a spot in rotation or he’ll be gone. Parsons looks to be a glue guy who either brings energy off bench or develops into the defensive wing we could use in starting line-up(ultimately,I think 6th Man,but if he ever gets a reliable 3…). Lee and Morris look like a fit,or the team could go scoring SG and Parsons.
Lowry has PG locked up-unless there’s a huge upgrade in FA(If Deron Williams will net Howard,sorry,Lowry’s gone.)
There’s going to be plenty of Cap room,solid starters and role players,just need to find the guy who can carry a team when it’s struggling.

by Tisbee on Jan 10, 2012 12:46 AM CST up reply actions  

I would rather have Lowry/Howard

Then you can seel Howard on playing with Scola, Lowry but I doubt it will be enough.

I think the rockets could have two top 16 picks this year. If you can draft high enough to get anthony Davis or Harrison Barnes, that would be awesome. I think we are bad enough on defense to pick top 5 with our pick. On the bright side, we wont be giving it to the Suns because of that.

New york is pretty average. Theyre 7th in the east right now, but I think Phill, Indy, Atlanta, Chicago, Miami, Orlando, and Boston are all better than them. They could easily miss the playoffs which would be sweet. Will see, The Rockets need their next star to pair with Lowry. I would like to keep Scola, but if he has to go so be it.

Did you know Eric Berry was asexually produced by Chuck Norris?

by darwithabar on Jan 10, 2012 2:51 AM CST up reply actions  

I would too,but it seems

Howard and Williams are determined to team up,ala the Triplets.

by Tisbee on Jan 10, 2012 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

ummm

things arent looking so good. So i was just wondering if anyone new all the picks we have in this upcoming draft, cause the only thing thats making me happy about the way the rockets is the possibility that we may be able to fill that centre spot with i donno either of the athletic, shotblocking big-men in this years draft

by zwilko360 on Jan 10, 2012 6:58 AM CST reply actions  

We have the Knicks first rounder, top 5 protected.

They will probably be picking around 10-16 so it doesn’t matter. Be nice if they picked 6 though.

We traded Phoenix our first round pick, but it is top 14 protected. so we probably will be able to keep it.

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by darwithabar on Jan 10, 2012 11:25 AM CST reply actions  

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