Love requited - Greg Smith Signs with The Rockets
by Xiane on Feb 7, 2012 12:49 PM CST
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PrintAccording to Jonathan Feigen - Rio Grande Vipers center and Xiane object of basketball desire Greg Smith will be signed by the Rockets today. Feigen cites interest from other teams in the 6'10 260lb center. His raw stats are quite good.
Smith is averaging 16.8 points, 8.3 rebounds 1.3 steals and 1.3 blocks per game in 28 minutes average with a .677 shooting percentage. Projected to 40 minutes stats those numbers would be: 22pts, 11 rbs, 1.7 blocks, 1.7 steals.
He may be raw, but he's a natural center, and for a third, possibly second, center you could do worse. Feigen notes that this signing is not related to Samuel Dalembert and Jordan Hill spending most of the Denver game glued to the bench, but I would say it's not unrelated either.
Smith is a very young player, just turning 21 in January, and it surprised some observers that he wasn't drafted. Here's the Draft Express profile.
The likely casualty here is Jeff Adrien and now I find that a shame, because the Rockets seemed to finally find someone to partly fill the Chuck Hayes role - undersized, overstrong, scrappy and great at rebounding, not a scorer.
I enjoyed seeing a Rocket swing his elbows on a rebound for what seems like the first time this season. I hope that we make a move and send Flynn or Thabeet away for valuable prizes instead.
One last note - Former Rocket Jeremy Lin seems to have found a home in New York with the Knicks. (Because any point guard is better than no point guard perhaps.) Someone projected his stats over 48 minutes and they're better than DWade's (except for the turnovers). I find this hilarious. We may regret keeping Jonny "Aaron Brooks Without The Shooting" Flynn.
Update: Adrien was in fact cut by the team today, per Feigen.
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We signed your man/player crush!
Just in time for Valentine’s Day! Hope your wife understands.
I’m glad he’s here, too. And now that Adrien showed he can play and provide a spark, it would suck if he got cut/sent down.
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
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by ak2themax on Feb 7, 2012 12:53 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I think he's coming to live with us.
He’s not paid that well, he can help out with the groceries and stuff. We’ll cook for him, do his laundry, keep him company…
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
by Xiane on Feb 7, 2012 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
He can definitely reach the ceiling fans and dust them.
"Do not panic, all is well" Kevin Bacon in the parade scene in the movie Animal House
by mjdinhouston on Feb 11, 2012 6:49 AM CST up reply actions
I know.
He’s not going to like the list of projects I have for him, but hey, it’s free room and board.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Just a cut if no one will take him.
If you’re the Hornets or Bobcats though, why not send a 2nd rounder that we’ll never actually get to us for him?
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Yeah, or some crap like
“the right to swap second round picks once in the next 20 years.”
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
That is the reason I don't go to Battle Red Blog. I would be too rational and guys would flag my posts as spam.-batman713
If your team is going nowhere taking a chance on Thabeet can only help.
He’ll either prove to be a useful 7’3" guy, or he’ll help you get a better shot at #1.
Maybe since Denver lost their whole team last night they’ll take him?
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Or
we can get a case of gatorade for him.
"Do not panic, all is well" Kevin Bacon in the parade scene in the movie Animal House
by mjdinhouston on Feb 11, 2012 6:50 AM CST up reply actions
Too much maybe, how about a dozen inflating needles?
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Pre-season
Tall guy, had a nice garbage time, looks kind of sleepy
by NVP on Feb 7, 2012 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
Not that he's going to play
have to say, not an exceptional defender, but is a surprisingly good passer. The assist numbers dont show it, but passing out of a double team then repost is something we currently dont have
Also simply bringing in another big powerful guy when Dalembert sits down will help.
In the Minnesota game the only option with Dalembert out was to go small. Now we don’t always have to do that. He’ll be a better defender than he was in pre-season with some good minutes at RGV.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Here's hoping he gets minutes
Anyone knows if it’s a 10 day contract?
by NVP on Feb 7, 2012 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
Welcome to the Rockets!
Im a fan of Adrien, I hope we find a way to keep him, but another big man can’t hurt. He’s been tearing it up in the d league so if anything, he will bring more intensity in practice and should light a fire under Hill’s ass.
"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."
-Hakeem Olajuwon
"Stern Sucks"
-Me
Could cut one of the '09 guys...
Williams makes the least and is possibly the least valuable in trade.
But, yeah, it’ll probably be Adrien. Would suck right after he had such a good game.
Keep the guys that want to play
Keep Adrien! Even though he has been on the bench, he doesn’t complain in public or twitter and is just happy to be here. Thabeet needs to go. Bring back Chuck Nevitt if we need a really tall guy to sit on the end of the bench.
gosh don't get my hopes too high, i've been getting too excited lately.
and with this flynn to LA talk, maybe for a 1st (HA!), maybe for a young, we could see some guys who could contribute a solid 10-15 min a game.
Who could LA send?
Honestly that team goes about 4 deep.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
How about this trade.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7xps9cr
then we immediately waive fisher so that the salaries work. they can’t sign him until july 1st but he could jump on another team sooner. If they would give us their fist or the mavs for then i think it would be interesting. You think the lakers would do it?
That would mean we'd get Derek Fisher.
So no, thanks.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
More importantly
we’d get Derek Fisher’s 2013 contract for $3.4 million. Whoopee.
There’s no point in bringing back money for next year if we’re not getting something significant.
It's a player option
God knows he’s not signing with us, and also see above that we waive him. Do you know how the trade Exemption works? i was reading and thought we might not really have to take back anything at all if they use that. but yes i hate him as well.
Trade exceptions can only be used on single players by themselves.
So LA can take back up to $8.5 million without sending anyone out. It’s kind of like if they just had $8.5 million in cap space. But they can’t send anyone to the “giving” team, and that team can’t include anyone else. All that can be exchanged otherwise would be draft picks.
In that case
(and i know this has now become such an obscure move that it’s irrelevant) but we could give them Flynn for nothing but the pick? am i misunderstanding? could put the kicker of Williams for expiring nuts and bolts?
The trade machine says you could send
Flynn & Williams under the trade exemption, and just take back a pick. Not that you have to send two guys, but sending one you could keep Adrian and sign Smith.
Oh, and if you waive him the player option will count.
so you’ll end up paying for it (and, more importantly, it counts towards your cap).
Money is Money man
as if he’d turn down option money
by NVP on Feb 7, 2012 4:07 PM CST up reply actions
Bid day for Xiane
But why demote Adrien after his good game?
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
Don't trade Courtney Lee!
by .Bonzo on Feb 7, 2012 4:51 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Because, ultimately,
what’s more likely to be closer to the truth:
(a) The entirety of Jeff Adrien’s career, as well as evaluations made in practice
(b) 13 minutes last night
I was really pleased last night, but this move makes sense. It sucks, but it is what it is. As long as the ’09 dudes have some (hopeful) value in trade, the Rockets are better served by keeping them than keeping Adrien.
I highly doubt the '09 busts are going to garner much at the deadline.
Still, it’s a wait and see. If March 15th comes and goes as a disappointing day, I’ll point back to this day.
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
Don't trade Courtney Lee!
They don't get much by themselves,
but they’re basically an expiring contract. Expiring deals are worth something. Package them with other players and we may have something.
If March 15th comes and goes as a disappointing day, I’ll point back to this day.
Calling “something probably won’t happen” isn’t exactly proof of clairvoyance.
I think I worded my comment badly.
I meant to say I’d point back to this day to point out that we gave up Adrien when we could have given up Thabeet/Flynn/Williams
Sonicsgate: A movie about how the Sonics were stolen from Seattle.
Don't trade Courtney Lee!
Yeah, I suspected that I misunderstood.
Think of it this way: What’s the marginal value of Adrien over Thabeet? If you give them enough playing time (in other words, if you were giving one of them ten-fifteen minutes/game rather than a few minutes every now and then), the difference would probably be enormous.
But they’re not getting that much playing time. And so we’re talking maybe like half a win’s difference by the end of the year. Maybe. That might change greatly if a significant injury happens, but that’s a risk you have to take.
Of course, the difference between the West’s various non-OKC teams is so thin right now that maybe how much you get out of the last guy off the bench will matter (the Rockets are currently one of four teams with a 14-11 record; according to NBA.com, we’re officially in 7th place). But at that point, luck will play a bigger role, anyways. Just roll the dice, at that point.
Adrien officially cut
I threw the link in the post.
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
That is the reason I don't go to Battle Red Blog. I would be too rational and guys would flag my posts as spam.-batman713
I've got a soccer question for u
On Fifa 12…where the heck is Messi. I checked the Barcelona team and he’s not on there. There’s so many leagues and teams, is he on a different one?
by twinkilling0303 on Feb 7, 2012 6:11 PM CST up reply actions
Hmm
I don’t own Fifa 12, but that is odd. He should, considering he’s with FCB. You could always try to play as Argentina, I guess.
Was too far to huck a beer at a Stro’s player as per bone’s request. Jess (girlfriend) said I was too far, I said challenge accepted, a security guard said guess again.-BD34
That is the reason I don't go to Battle Red Blog. I would be too rational and guys would flag my posts as spam.-batman713
Dude get pro evolution soccer
you can control the players much better than fifa in my opinion. It doesnt have all the official names for some of the clubs for instance, but I just think its better, worth a shot at least.
"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."
-Hakeem Olajuwon
"Stern Sucks"
-Me
My nephew has it on psp
and he keeps telling me Messi isn’t on there, but I thought he just couldn’t find him. Sure enough he wasn’t on the roster. None of the players I know are there, David Villa too.
by twinkilling0303 on Feb 7, 2012 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
thats odd
I play pro evo 2012 on ps3 and messi is on the argentina and barcelona roster.
"I always keep a ball in the car. You never know."
-Hakeem Olajuwon
"Stern Sucks"
-Me
Must be some sort of licensing problem.
And that game makes it virtually impossible to add someone to the roster like that.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Damn, just after Adrien got some playing time they go and pull the rug out from under him
Glad to see Smith here, but good luck Adrien
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
I think the game is the reason why
we saw what he had to offer against lower NBA players, and it wasn’t good enough for us to keep him over greg smith. He will probably get picked up, which is why i think he was played. it was more for him than the team.
I was thinking McHale was giving him one last hoorah with the team, going out in a blaze of elbows
"San Antonio is the best falling down team in the league"- Bill Worrell
by TheLastDynasty on Feb 7, 2012 7:28 PM CST up reply actions
Kinda sucks that Adrien was cut...
right after one of his best rebounding games.
by rocketsportsfan on Feb 7, 2012 11:55 PM CST reply actions
I'm fine with his scoring numbers
But if he’s only averaging 8 rebs on the d-league… i won’t be too psyched about that part of his game. I do hope he keeps his blocking percentage.
by rocketsportsfan on Feb 8, 2012 12:02 AM CST reply actions
I dont know if you ever watched a d-league game before
but it is not a center friendly style, it’s a lot of quick shots and long rebounds, and guards/ forward flying in or competes for rebounds.
in fact 6-8, 6-9 player has better success rebounding in the d-league due to mobility
by NVP on Feb 8, 2012 7:53 AM CST up reply actions
I just saw Chronicle
I need super powers
by twinkilling0303 on Feb 8, 2012 12:11 AM CST reply actions
Is it any good?
The trailer looks pretty bad ass when I first saw it, but I could be wrong.
"He was in my way, so I got him out of the way." - Arian Foster
It's really good
I thought it was gonna be dumb with the first person camera kinda thing, but I was wrong. See it when you get the chance
by twinkilling0303 on Feb 8, 2012 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
I’m hearing that both the Lakers and Knicks want Flynn…
… and maybe we can add the Clippers to that list, since they just lost Billups.
Why not see if they can swing a 3 team deal that brings Kaman to Houston from the Hornets?
Trade Flynn to the Lakers, Clips, or Knicks, then use Hill and Thabeet as throw-ins to either the team who gets Flynn or the Hornets. The team that gets Flynn then sends drafts picks or young guys to the Hornets to make up the difference.
If it gets done, our 3 centers would be Kaman, Sammy D., and Greg Smith.
Not too bad (IMO)…
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I had to stop arguing with drunks, Steeler fans, and all other fools.
It was making my brick wall jealous...
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Dedicated to the "Pride of the Steelers"
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Clips will not want Flynn
They already have 3 point guards.
Also, the Knicks and the Lakers have no assets whatsoever, so it doesn’t help us get Kaman.
Not anymore - Chaucey is gone.
"Each in turn... volunteered his suggestions, his invaluable suggestions."
Yeah, but he wasn't playing PG, he was playing SG.
Clips are much more likely to be looking for a wing.
I hope Greg Smith gets some PT
This guy seems like he could be really good. True centers are really valuable in this league.
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